Monday, March 26, 2007

Frankenstein Chapters 17 - 21

Answer each of the questions below then include your line(s) and why it stood out to you.

  1. What keeps Frankenstein from completing the second creature?
  2. Did you find the events in Chapter 21 probable or improbable? Explain.

16 comments:

Unknown said...

Victor chooses not to finish the second monster because he can not bring himself to bring to life another horrible creature. He talks himself into believing that this female counterpart will in fact be just as evil and malicious as the first creature. He can not fully trust the monster's intentions no matter how endearing or persuasive his story was.

I found that chapter 21 was very predictable. The monster vowed to seek revenge on Victor and to put him through as much misery as possible. He will not stop because Frankenstein broke the "promise" upon which they had made. Killing Victor's best friend certainly brought much anguish, misery and resentment, and it will not stop there.

"The cup of life was poisoned forever". Frankenstein can no longer find happiness in anything because he knows that the monster, until he exists no more, will be with him wherever he goes. He also feels guilty because he has brought these deaths upon himself. He is so far beyond hitting rock bottom that it is easy to commiserate with him.

Lydia~

Unknown said...

"Oh! My creator, make me happy; let me feel gratitude towards you for one benefit!" The monster so badly wants the possibility of another being that would accept him, but Frankenstein decides not to grant his wish because he fears the existence of another monster. His decision is a good one at that, because he already cannot handle one monstrous creation, why in the world would he make another one? "Shall I create another like yourself, whose joint wickedness might desolate the world. Begone!" (138) Frankenstein does not want another wicked creature around, so he breaks his promise to the monster,which makes chapter 21 very probable. After taking away the monsters only hope, he decides to get back at him, and do the same to him, by taking away Frankensteins only hope, starting with his good friend Henry. I dont' believe he'll stop until Frankenstein is just as alone and miserable as he is.

Unknown said...

As Frankenstein is starting to complete the second creature he begins to think that it is a bad idea. He thinks that it is a bad idea to create a partner for the creature because then he would be leaving it for future generations. It would be selfish of him to create a partner for the creature and rid himself of the worries and fear that the creature brings with him, only to open up the possibility of more of their kind being created and hurting people. He doesn’t trust that the monster’s intentions to leave humanity alone are pure and he can not bring himself to create another monster to terrorize him and other people. “I had resolved in my own mind that to create another like the fiend I had first made would be an act of the basest and most atrocious selfishness.” (163)


The events in chapter 21 seemed very probably to me. The fact that Frankenstein once again turned his back on his creation and left him to misery led me to believe that the creation was going to haunt and hurt him. I was surprised at the fact that Frankenstein’s father made the trip to visit his son, because earlier in the story it was said he was far to old and weak to travel. I don’t doubt that the monster will continue to follow Frankenstein and will not leave him alone until his revenge has been served. “Your hours will pass in dread and misery, and soon the bolt will fall which must ravish from you your happiness forever. Are you to be happy while I grovel in the intensity of my wretchedness? You can blast my other passions, but revenge remains–”(160)

Unknown said...

Frankenstein did not complete his second creation even after promising the monster he would do so. At first he thought that it would be the right thing to do, so that the monster would not be alone in the world, but as he starts the second creature, he envisions that this new monster will be just as sinister as the first, and quickly breaks the promise made.

The events in chapter 21 seemed very probable to me. The monster promised to get revenge on Victor, and he did just that by killing his best friend. I do believe that the monster will continue to hunt him and make his life miserable for as long as possible. As for Victor’s father coming to visit him, I found that to be somewhat of a surprise because he was said to have been to old for travel.

“Begone! I do break my promise; never will I create another like yourself, equal in deformity and wickedness.” (160) This is showing Victor’s final conclusion about the birth of a second monster. These actions will continually haunt Victor Frankenstein for what may be the remainder of his life.

Unknown said...

Although Frankenstein wants to free himself from the monster, he refuses to complete the second creature because he fears that the new monster will not want to go into seclusion. Also, he fears the thought of the two reproducing, and “…a race of devils [being] propagated upon the earth.(page 158)” Many thoughts cross his mind, during this time, the thought that maybe the two might not, after all, even like each other. That instead they might actually end up loathing each other. I find the events in chapter 21 very improbable. I mean, he just happened to land there? The monster just happened to kill Henry the night before? Everything just seems way too coincidental, and very improbable. I think that most of the sentences that stand out to me are mostly because they are beautifully worded. “Even if they were to leave Europe and inhabit the deserts of the new world, yet one of the first results of those sympathies for which the demon thirsted would be children, and a race of devils would be propagated upon the earth who might make the very existence of the species of man a condition precarious and full of terror.” To explain why this quote first stood out for me, I must first explain how ridiculous I think the character of Victor is. This quote stood out to me because, Victor is (can you believe it?!) finally thinking about his actions, and the effect that this might have on others, besides himself.

Unknown said...

Victor started to create a female creature, but destroyed it before it was complete. He did this for a few reasons. Mostly, he was just afraid of what might happen. The first time he created something, he did not think it all the way through and is afraid that something terrible would happen if there were two creatures. They could breed, for example, or the female might not satisfy the male creature's needs. Also, he doesn't want to be told what to do by his creation.

The events in chapter 21 seemed pretty probable to me. The creature is angry and has sworn revenge many times throughout the book. Plus, it is similar to what happened with William and Justine earlier.

On page 169, Victor sees the body of his friend and asks, "Have my murderous machinations deprived you also, my dearest Henry, of life?" He was very upset about his friend's death, and this probably left mixed feelings in him. For one, he was probably glad that he didn't create a female creature because all they seem to do is kill. However, this might have made him regret not going through with his promise of making a companion for the male creature. I believe Victor is just in too deep and doesn't know what to do anymore.

Ian said...

Frankenstein at first agrees to create a second monster. Yet,after mulling this proposition over for some time, he realizes that there could be extremely negative consequences. He believes that it might allow his monster to spawn a new generation of monsters who could plague the human race for ever. There is also the fact that his second creation will have a mind of her own and may not like her arranged mate. This could cause even greater anguish for his first monster and end up backfiring. He knows that his creation is capable of massive destruction, and he does not want to risk doubling that power.

The events of chapter 21 were quite predictable. Already it easy to see that Frankenstein's monster has snapped and caused great atrocities already, and the monster clearly details the consequences of breaking the promise. "It is well. I go; but remember, I shall be with you on your wedding-night." (161) This quote only hints at the misery to come, so when Clerval is murdered and Frankenstein is sent to jail, it comes as no suprise.

Unknown said...

Though Frankenstein promised the monster that he would create a second monster to accompany him, Frankenstein has a change of heart and decides not to create the second monster. He realizes that though the first monster he created has promised to leave and stop killing and terrorizing people, the second monster could easily herself terrorize people. Also, he is scared to create a second monster because the first monster that he created has already been a huge cause of fear and regret in his life and he doesnt want to make the same mistake twice.
Chapter 21 did seem very possible to me. The monster was furious and vowed revenge on Frankenstein so he did the thing that would cause the greatest pain in Frankenstein's life. Killing Frankenstein's good friend makes him very sad and misearble.
"I can make you so wretched that the light of day will be hateful to you. You are my creator, but I am your master! Obey!"(160) This quote stood out because the monster seems to have finally become totally evil. He knows his own strength and power and now with his rage he intends to ruin Frankensteins life and to do all that he can to make him unhappy because the monster believes that Frankenstein is the source of his unhappiness.

Unknown said...

Frankenstein decides not to make a second creature out of fear of what could come. He is afraid that she would become "ten thousand times more malignant than her mate," may not comply with [the] compact made before her creation," that they would have a "devil race" of children, and that they may learn to hate one another because of their deformities and turn towards violence after being deserted by their own species.

I do find the events in Chapter 21 to be probable. The creature feels such anguish and anger towards Frankenstein that killing him would be too easy. He has already framed another for murder once before, and by framing Frankenstein for the murder of his dearest friend Clerval, he would be taking the greatest revenge. The only thing I find a little improbable is the creature knowing where Frankenstein would end up. It was not his intention to fall asleep and end up in Ireland, and he was still on his island when the creature dropped off the body. The only thing I could think of that would explain this is if he was not necessarily trying to frame him for murder, but murdering his best friend to deeply wound his creator knowing that the news of his death would no doubt reach him.

"I was moved. I shuddered when I thought of the possible consequences of my consent, but I felt that there was some justice in his argument. His tale and the feelings he now expressed proved him to be a creature of fine sensations, and did I not as his maker owe him all the portion of happiness that it was in my power to bestow?"(139)

"His words had a strange effect upon me. I compassionated him and sometimes felt a wish to console him, but when I looked upon him, when I saw the filthy mass that moved and talked, my heart sickened and my feelings were altered to those of horror and hatred. I tried to stifle these sensations; I thought that as I could not sympathize with him, I had no right to withhold from him the small portion of happiness which was yet in my power to bestow."(140)

"I thought with a sensation of madness on my promise of creating another like to him, and trembling with passion, tore to pieces the thing on which I was engaged. The wretch saw me destroy the creature on whose future existence he depended for happiness, and with a howl of devilish despair and revenge, withdrew."(158)

These lines really stood out to me because of Frankenstein's actions and feelings towards his creation. It is baffling to me how he can sympathize with the creature and want to comfort it, yet look upon its frame which he created and still feel such hatred and decide that he cannot sympathize with it. He admits that the creature is one of "fine sensations" yet still overlooks how miserable it is and does not with to help it. His only cause for making his promise is because he is afraid for his friends and family. Every bit of sympathy he feels is overcast by his abhorrence for the creature.

A couple different times in their encounter the creature flat out begs Frankenstein to bestow upon him a friend. One example is, "Oh! My creator, make me happy; let me feel gratitude towards you for one benefit! Let me see that I excite the sympathy of some existing thing; do not deny me my request!"(139) I still find it horrible that even after feeling the smallest bit of sympathy for the creature, and watching it beg to no longer feel such agony he can turn his back and not help him no matter what his fears for the future are.

Jesse said...

Though, Victor Frankenstein could almost give in to the creatures request, he thought that at any time the other monster could just help the creature create more catastrophies. "His words had a strange effect upon me. I compassionated him and sometimes felt to wich to console him, but when I looked upon him, when I saw the filthy mass that moved and talked, my heart sickenedand my feelings were altered to those of horror and hatred." (140) Frankenstein wants to care for the thing he created but just will not let himself.

In Chapter 21 the events were kind of probable and predictable. Frankenstein turned his back on the creature again and so the creature would have turned around to get revenge. All he wants is to be wanted and Frankenstein willnot let him. I think that the monster will continue to do what he feels necessary to make himself feel better.

Unknown said...

Victor does not create the second monster because he is afraid of what the two of them could do together. He starts wondering about things such as, what if they didn't even like each other, and what if the created other monsters that future generations would have to endure the terror of just so he could sleep peacefully. " ...I now felt as if a film had been taken from before my eyes and that I for he first time say clearly...to create another like the fiend I had first made would be an act of the basest and most atrocious selfishness..."(163)

2. I do think that the events in chapter 21 were predictable. It was made clear that the monster had promised to make Victor's life hell after her refused to create another monster. Plus, just from seeing the anger he showed when he killed William because he knew he was related to Frankenstein, you could tell that the monster would keep his word, and that he will not hesitate to hurt those close to Victor.

"The hour of my irresolution is past, and the period of your power is arrived." (160) This kind of stood out to me. Here Victor knows that by destroying his other creation he was working on he has turned over his power. Before the monster was begging him to make another, and he had the control to protect his love ones. Now, since he will not comply he knows that the monster could and probably will hurt Victor's family or friends. The monster has nothing to lose and everything to gain from Victor's pain. Victor knows that the monster wants him to suffer, and he has the power too.

Anthony said...

Victor does not complete the second creature because he believes that it will do great harm, just as the first has done. He also does not wish the two creatures to mate and create further havoc within the world by creating a whole race.

The events in Chapter 21 seemed very probably to me. After Victor betrayed his creation yet again, vengeance was sworn against him. The creature is going to try and put Victor through all the pain and suffering that he has been through.

" I had feelings of affection, and they were requited by detestation and scorn." This stood out to me, because finally the creature is standing up to Victor and telling him how he feels.

Unknown said...

Frankenstein is reluctant to create a mate for his creation because he fears the second monster will only aid the initial monster to wreak havoc on the world. The monster's actions in chapter 21 were obvious, I could have seen it comming a mile away. The monsters oath to revenge was very probable, and his thought process which lead him to kill Frankenstein's friend instead of Frankenstein was very expected. From my point of view, Victor Frankenstein is a very greedy and selfish man for abandoning his virtual son! Simply because of his physical grotesque.

Unknown said...

The completion of the second monster comes to an end when Frankenstein thinks about what he is actually doing. “The wretch saw me destroy the creature on whose future existence he depended for happiness and with a howl of devilish despair and revenge withdrew.”(159) He breaks his promise to his creation for the betterment of the world. He realizes that he could not unleash another monster on the world not knowing what the out come would be.

Chapter 21 definitely seemed probable for the most part. I was not surprised to see that Frankenstein once again let his creation down. It was a little sad but I would have done the same thing. The retaliation from his creature was definitely predictable, he has nothing left but misery. His intentions for his creator are made clear by these lines, “Beware, for I am fearless and therefore powerful. I will watch with the wiliness of a snake, that I may sting with its venom. Man, you shall repent of the injuries you inflict.”(161) I did find it a little improbable that Victor’s father came to see him. Especially since early on he didn’t make the trip because he was to weak.

Unknown said...

He believes that the new monster will not want to hide herseland he starts thinking what if they had children, then he sees the monster looking at him and overcome with greif of another monster like the original walking around terrifies him so he destroys the monster. I found the events in Chapter 21 very probable because it seems like after every tragic experiance in his life that he falls ill and sure enough he did.

Unknown said...

all terrible